From Pascal.Demoulin@obspm.fr Tue May 27 17:52:44 2003 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:52:51 +0200 From: Pascal Demoulin To: Jongchul Chae Cc: Kanya Kusano , 'mitch Berger' , 'Pablo Mininni' , 'Richard Canfield' , 'Alexander Nindos' , 'BC Low' , 'Jim Klimchuk' , 'Marcelo Lopez-Fuentes' , 'Sarah Gibson' , sakurai@solar.mtk.nao.ac.jp, 'Terry Forbes' , "'Brian T. Welsch'" , dana@mithra.physics.montana.edu, magara@mithra.physics.montana.edu, apevtsov@nso.edu, haimin@sundog.caltech.edu, yjmoon@bbso.njit.edu, "[ISO-2022-JP] ?^[$B;3^[(B ^[$B1{L@^[(B" Subject: Re: 2 new papers on magnetic helicity > Dear Jongchul, > I fully support your argument. You are the one who first clarified the > relation between the flux density patten transport velocity and the > plasma velocity. Attached is my own note supporting your finding, where > I tried to make clear the definition of flux density pattern transport > velocity. Based on your result, I will not attempt to measure the > horizontal fields and Doppler velocity for the derivation of the > "emergence term" in the helicity flux. Fine !!! :)= But to be honest it was first Mitch which see this point from a theoretical point of view.... Mitch realized this much earlier than any attempt to measure the helicity flux with the LCT method ! But this was very shortly mentioned in one of his paper....and so hidden by many more interesting results !! When the LCT method started to be broadly applied it was the time to expose Mitch's results clearly in the context of observations. I remember that Kusano's paper was the trigger to work this out ...and it took me some time to get fully convince by Mitch's argumentation (e.g. in the case of a growing magnetic flux..... what we just discuss in previous mails !). After all it look a a simple result... but not so obvious to digest ! :)= My best wishes, Pascal *====================================================================* Pascal Demoulin Phone: 33 1 45 07 78 16 Observatoire de Paris Fax: 33 1 45 07 79 59 section Meudon, LESIA, Bat. 14 http://www.solaire.obspm.fr/demoulin/ F-92195 Meudon Principal Cedex Pascal.Demoulin@obspm.fr France *====================================================================*